THE COURAGE TO LEAD INTERVIEW SERIES

51. TANYA KUNZE

Courage to Lead: Insights from Tanya Kunze on Leadership, Resilience, and Success
In the latest episode of the "Courage to Lead" interview series, Allan Sicard sits down with Tanya Kunze, a global keynote speaker, author, TV anchor, podcast host, and neuroscience-based coach. Tanya's journey from Johannesburg to becoming a recognised leader in enablement is nothing short of inspiring. This blog post delves into the key themes and insights from the interview, offering actionable advice and detailed explanations to guide listeners and readers alike.
Early Leadership and Independence
Tanya's first experience of leadership dates back to her school days. She describes herself as a natural leader, a trait that aligns with her DISC profile as a Dominance and Influence (DI) type. This early inclination towards leadership was evident when, at the age of 14, she decided to earn her own pocket money. She confidently walked into a clothing store and asked for a job, demonstrating her fierce independence and entrepreneurial spirit.
Embracing Change and Taking Risks
One of the most significant and gutsy moves in Tanya's life was her decision to relocate to Australia with her 12-year-old son. Within three weeks, she packed up her life in Johannesburg and moved to a new country, driven by a desire for a better future. This move required immense courage and adaptability, qualities that have defined her career.
Building a Diverse Skill Set
Tanya's career is a testament to the power of a diverse skill set. Starting with a passion for psychology, she ventured into various industries, gaining deep insights into different business functions. Her journey led her to business coaching and neuroscience coaching, where she combines her understanding of human behaviour with business acumen.
Aligning Thoughts and Feelings
Tanya emphasises the importance of aligning thoughts and feelings to achieve physical and emotional well-being. She delves into the concept of energy vibration, explaining how positive energy can attract positive outcomes. This holistic approach to success is a cornerstone of her coaching philosophy.
Overcoming Self-Doubt and Judgment
Throughout her career, Tanya has faced self-doubt and judgment. However, she has learned to embrace her unique journey and experiences, using them to build a successful career. Her story is a powerful reminder that everyone’s path is different, and success often comes from embracing your individuality.
Conclusion
Tanya Kunze’s journey from Johannesburg to becoming a global leader is filled with valuable lessons on leadership, resilience, and success. By taking initiative, embracing change, building a diverse skill set, aligning thoughts and feelings, and overcoming self-doubt, Tanya has created a remarkable career. Her story serves as an inspiration for anyone looking to lead with courage and make a meaningful impact.
Key Takeaways:
* Understand and leverage your natural leadership style.
* Embrace change and take calculated risks.
* Continuously learn and build cross-functional expertise.
* Align your thoughts and feelings to attract positive outcomes.
* Overcome self-doubt by embracing your unique journey.
By following these insights and actionable advice, you can navigate your own path to success with confidence and resilience.

50. SAPPHIRE PARSONS

In the latest episode of the Courage to Lead interview series, Allan Sicard sits down with Sapphire Parsons, a senior workplace lawyer at Macpherson Kelly. Sapphire's impressive accolades include being named the Best Young Lawyer in Australia for under 35 in 2023 and winning the 2023 Lawyers Weekly Under 30 Award for Workplace Health and Safety.
This interview delves into Sapphire's journey, her experiences of leadership, and her unwavering commitment to creating safe workplaces for everyone.
Early Leadership and Founding the Bond African Students Association
Sapphire's first true experience of leadership came during her time at Bond University on the Gold Coast. In 2011, she and her friends founded the Bond African Students Association to represent African students on campus. As the first president, Sapphire played a crucial role in establishing the organization and advocating for the needs of African students.
Growing Up in Zimbabwe
Sapphire's multicultural background, with roots in Zimbabwe, Greece, and Mozambique, has significantly influenced her worldview. Growing up in Zimbabwe, she experienced a blend of cultures that shaped her understanding of diversity and inclusion.
Sapphire's Alter Egos
Sapphire shared an intriguing aspect of her personality: her alter egos. She uses different personas, such as Sophia for family, Yosef for her nerdy, bookworm side, and Sapphire for her professional self. This approach helps her navigate different aspects of her life effectively.
Advocating for Safe Workplaces
Sapphire's commitment to creating safe workplaces, particularly for women, stems from her personal experiences and the challenges she has witnessed in her community. She emphasises the importance of courage and bravery in advocating for change.
Overcoming Personal Challenges
Sapphire credits her resilience to the support she received from friends, family, and mentors. This network played a crucial role in helping her navigate difficult situations and pursue her goals.
Career in Law and Union Advocacy
Sapphire's career journey includes working with trade unions and advocating for workers' rights. Her experiences in union advocacy provided her with a deep understanding of workplace issues and the power of collective action.
Practical Advice for Creating Safe Workplaces
Sapphire advises starting with a clear vision of the desired work environment and understanding the legal requirements that support it. Using the law as a tool to protect oneself and others is crucial in creating safe workplaces.
Conclusion
Sapphire Parsons' journey is a testament to the power of resilience, community support, and unwavering commitment to social justice. Her experiences and insights offer valuable lessons for anyone looking to create safe and supportive workplaces. By embracing cultural diversity, building strong support networks, and leveraging legal frameworks, we can all contribute to a safer and more inclusive work environment.
Actionable Tips
* Build Representation: Advocate for representation and inclusivity in your workplace or community.
* Embrace Diversity: Leverage your cultural background and personal experiences to foster a more inclusive environment.
* Develop Support Networks: Surround yourself with supportive individuals who share your values and goals.
* Understand Legal Frameworks: Educate yourself on the legal requirements and protections related to workplace safety.
* Be Courageous: Have the courage to advocate for change and challenge the status quo.
By following these tips and drawing inspiration from Sapphire's journey, we can all take steps towards creating safer and more supportive workplaces for everyone.

49. ASHA BHAT OAM

🌟 Leadership Lessons from Childhood:
A Journey with Asha BHAT AOM 🌟
In a recent conversation with Asha BHAT, I was captivated by an inspiring childhood memory that profoundly shaped her leadership journey. As a young girl, Asha won a competition and navigated public transport in India, alone to bring her prize home. This early experience, coupled with her defiance of traditional gender roles, laid the foundation for her lifelong determination to empower women. It's fascinating how our early experiences can mould our leadership styles and drive us to challenge societal norms.
💡 Financial Turnaround and Strategic Acumen
When Asha took the helm as CEO of the Southern Aboriginal Corporation in Western A, the organisation faced a daunting $500,000 debt. Through strategic restructuring and governance improvements, Asha steered the corporation to financial stability. Her adeptness in securing investments and minimising interest payments showcases a strategic approach that ensures long-term sustainability. Asha's story is a testament to the power of smart financial decisions in nonprofit leadership.
🌏 Migrant Experiences and Cultural Adaptation
Asha's journey as a migrant from India to Australia is truly inspiring. She shared her initial struggles with cultural shock and employment challenges, facing prejudice and stereotypical judgments. Yet, her resilience and open-mindedness helped her adapt to the Australian way of life. Asha's story emphasises the importance of continuous learning and empathy in navigating new cultures and building meaningful connections within the community.
📧 Email Communication and Emotional Intelligence
Asha provided valuable insights on managing email communication as a leader. She emphasises the importance of assessing the necessity of immediate responses and crafting factual, unbiased replies. Separating emotions from written correspondence is crucial, as it impacts the conveyed message. Her approach to communication, combined with emotional intelligence, has significantly influenced her leadership style, ensuring clear and professional interactions.
🚀 Funding Challenges and Mentoring Future Leaders
Securing and effectively implementing funding is a constant challenge for organisations. Asha discussed the intricacies of grant applications, highlighting the need for thorough recruitment, community consultation, and risk mitigation. Moreover, Asha is passionate about mentoring the next generation of leaders, particularly women and young girls. Her commitment to nurturing young talent within her community is a powerful reminder of the importance of investing in future leaders while balancing the demands of leadership and self-care.

48. TERRI MARTIN

Today, I'm thrilled to share with you a truly enlightening conversation I had with Terri Martin, the head of corporate training at the National Institute of Dramatic Arts (NIDA), based at the University of New South Wales.
The Genesis of Leadership: A Tale of Early Responsibility
My chat with Terri began with a question I pose to all my guests: "What is your first ever true experience of leadership?" Terri’s response took us back to her 15-year-old self, working at Harris Farm Markets in Brisbane. To her surprise, she was soon asked to become a supervisor, a role that brought with it a weighty responsibility for someone still navigating high school and extracurricular activities like gymnastics.
This early brush with leadership was a revelation for Terri. It showcased a recurring theme in her life: others often recognised her leadership potential before she did. This formative experience laid the groundwork for her understanding of leadership as an innate ability to manage, inspire, and take on responsibilities, even when they seemed overwhelming.
From Checkout to Corporate Training: A Career of Compassion and Challenge
Terri’s journey from the checkouts to the head of corporate training at NIDA is a testament to her resilience and adaptability. Her story is not just about climbing the corporate ladder; it's about the human connections that shaped her along the way. One such connection was with an elderly gentleman she met on her bus rides, whom she befriended and assisted out of sheer kindness. This relationship highlighted Terri’s innate leadership quality: the ability to recognise and respond to the needs of others.
Empathy in Leadership: Balancing Professional Boundaries
Throughout our conversation, Terri emphasised the importance of empathy in leadership. She candidly shared her experiences of transitioning into leadership roles and the lessons learned along the way. One powerful example was her role in facilitating a positive change in team dynamics at a previous organisation. By fostering open communication and understanding between two conflicting teams, Terri witnessed a significant cultural shift, underscoring the impact of effective leadership on team cohesion and organisational success.
The NIDA Chapter: Leading with Creativity and Purpose
Terri’s role at NIDA is a blend of her passion for creativity and her expertise in leadership. She described a new partnership with the Sydney Swans a large, successful,National Australian Football Club, where she is helping train their staff to be better communicators and have more presence. It's clear that Terri thrives in environments where she can bring creativity to life and make a tangible difference in people's professional skills.
Reflections on a Diverse Career: The Power of Resilience
Terri’s career has been anything but linear. From her time at Presentation Studios, which looks after TED Talks, to her impactful work at Youth Off The Streets, she has navigated various sectors with grace and determination. As a sometimes single mom, Terri also opened up about the challenges of balancing her career with family life, highlighting the support of her mother and the necessity of prioritising what's truly important.
Embracing Imperfection: Advice for a Fulfilling Life
As our conversation drew to a close, Terri imparted a piece of advice that resonated deeply with me: let go of the pursuit of perfection. She urged listeners to embrace "good enough" and to be gentle with themselves. It's a reminder that in our quest for success, we must not lose sight of our well-being and the joy of the journey.
Final Thoughts: Creativity as a Leadership Tool
Reflecting on Terri’s story, it's evident that creativity is not just an artistic endeavour; it's a vital component of leadership.
As Terri so beautifully put it, being surrounded by creativity nourishes the soul and provides the courage to face judgment and turn visionary ideas into reality.

47. LEE COOPER

My conversation with Lee Cooper, Senior lecturer Center for Social Impact University of New South Wales, was a great example of Empowering Leadership.
Lee's journey is a testament to the power of resilience, trust, and the willingness to learn from every experience.
The Formative Influence of Selfless Service
Lee's story begins with a powerful example set by his grandfather.  His grandfather's leadership through his unwavering commitment to caring for his wife with rheumatoid arthritis. This act of selfless service left an indelible mark on Lee.  His grandfather's example shaped his understanding of what it means to lead with dedication and compassion.
Despite not passing year 12, Lee's path led him to a fulfilling career in youth work and community development. His reluctance to engage in academic pursuits and fear of exams contrast sharply with his current role as an education academic.  It is a surprising twist that often astonishes those who have known him for a long time.
A Journey of Empowering Leadership and Resilience
My conversation with Lee took us to Horsham, Victoria, where he began his transformative work as a youth outreach worker. There, he faced the challenges of supporting young people grappling with mental illness, addiction, and the justice system. Lee and his team's innovative programs, such as adventure-based initiatives and all-ages music festivals, were pivotal in empowering these individuals. 
The Evolution of Empowering Leadership
After Horsham, Lee's career progression led him to Canteen, the cancer organisation for young people. There, he learned the nuances of managing a team and the state office, including the Northern Territory. He candidly discussed his initial feelings of incompetence and the journey to finding his footing as a leader.  Lee became a great example of empowering leadership.  He was a leader who could empower his team and foster a culture of trust and development.
Lee's personal struggles and the subsequent downward spiral were a turning point. By seeking support and focusing on self-care, he reversed the spiral.  He created a safer, more authentic workplace environment. His story of vulnerability and growth is a powerful reminder of the importance of self-awareness.  Self awareness is a crucial factor in leadership.
Trust as the Cornerstone of Empowering Leadership
Throughout our discussion, the theme of trust emerged as a cornerstone of empowering leadership. Lee reflected on the importance of maintaining trust, even when past experiences might encourage a leader to become guarded. He shared insights on how mistrust can filter through an organisation.  Alternatively, a position of trust can foster a more positive and empowering environment.
Embracing Education and Critical Thinking
Lee's decision to pursue higher education later in life, starting with a master's degree at the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), was a pivotal moment. It was a conscious choice to challenge his self-imposed limitations and to add a new dimension to his leadership capabilities. His success in academia, including a second master's degree in creative intelligence and strategic innovation, is a testament to his determination and intellectual curiosity.
The Impact of Teaching and the Joy of Contributing
Now, as a senior lecturer, Lee finds joy in contributing to the growth of his students and takes pride in the impact he can have on their future.   His transition from a large organisation to an academic institution has come with its own set of challenges and rewards.   Lee's curiosity and commitment to finding value in every experience have remained constant.
Conclusion: A Career of Curiosity and Fulfilment
Lee's advice to pursue a career of curiosity and to appreciate the learning opportunities in each role is a valuable lesson for us all.
Lee's growth as a leader, and his passion for teaching are sources of inspiration for anyone looking to make a difference in the world.

46. REBECCA PINKSTONE

From Bridge Housing to Homes New South Wales: Embracing New Challenges
Transitioning from the CEO of Bridge Housing to the helm of Homes New South Wales was a significant move for Rebecca. She shared with me the mixed emotions that accompanied this change. While she cherished her time at Bridge Housing, the opportunity to establish a new division in government dedicated to housing was too compelling to pass up. Rebecca's passion for making a tangible impact in the housing sector was evident as she spoke about the potential of her new role.
The Art of Leading Change
Leading change is no small feat, and Rebecca's approach is both thoughtful and strategic. She emphasised the importance of viewing change as an opportunity rather than a threat. This mindset is crucial when considering the diverse perspectives and reactions that change can elicit. Rebecca's leadership is grounded in the understanding that collaboration and clear communication with stakeholders like Minister Rose Jackson and Michael Tidball, head of the Department of Communities and Justice, are key to addressing the housing crisis effectively.
Family Support: The Foundation of Success
During our conversation, Rebecca opened up about her family life, expressing gratitude for the unwavering support from her husband, Tom. His transition from the community and justice sector to primary school teaching was a testament to the couple's commitment to open communication and negotiation. Balancing family responsibilities with a demanding CEO role requires a strong partnership, and Rebecca's story is a powerful example of that.
Addressing the Housing Crisis: A Multifaceted Approach
The urgency of the housing crisis was a recurring theme in our discussion. Rebecca stressed the importance of creating a "burning platform" to drive change and the need for policy settings and community engagement to address local challenges. She shared success stories of housing developments in Riverwood and regional communities, highlighting the importance of environmentally friendly and accessible housing designs.
Collaboration with local councils, particularly the City of Sydney, has been instrumental in supporting social and affordable housing developments. Rebecca pointed out the productivity link between affordable housing and the workforce, emphasising the need to prevent cities from becoming gentrified by ensuring that government and community housing partners can deliver affordable homes.
Defining Affordable Housing and Its Future Impact
A key part of our conversation centered on the definition of affordable housing and its implications for individuals and future generations. Rebecca clarified that affordable housing should not consume more than 30% of an individual's income. She underscored the distinction between the financial burdens of mortgages versus rent, advocating for affordable rentals to alleviate financial strain.
Building a Supportive Work Culture and Maintaining Work-Life Balance
Looking ahead, Rebecca's goals for the next two years include fostering a strong organisational culture at Homes New South Wales and creating a supportive work environment. She's committed to gathering staff feedback through pulse surveys and actively working on the results to enhance the workplace.
I wrapped up our conversation by acknowledging the sacrifices leaders like Rebecca make. Her dedication to her professional responsibilities, coupled with her commitment to her family's well-being, is a delicate balance that she navigates with grace and determination.
Rebecca Pinkstone's story is a testament to the power of passion, collaboration, and resilience in driving societal change. As we concluded our discussion, I was left with a deep appreciation for the complexity of her role and the impact she's making on communities across New South Wales.

45. ABBIE JANE THE RAINBOW SHOELACE PROJECT

I want to share the insights and lessons from my conversation with Abby Jane, a young advocate for the LGBTIQA+ community whose story is a testament to the power of leadership, empathy, and resilience.
A Leader in the Making: Abby Jane's Early Steps
Abby Jane's journey into leadership began at the tender age of eight when she volunteered and fundraised for cancer research. Her initiative to donate her hair and raise $3500 showcased her early commitment to making a difference. Her involvement in Scouts further honed her skills in team-building and friendship, laying the foundation for her future endeavours.
The Birth of the Rainbow Shoelace Project
At 12, Abby Jane started the Rainbow Shoelace Project, a beacon of support for the LGBTIQA+ community. The project stemmed from her personal struggle with isolation and fear upon entering high school as a young queer person. Initially, rainbow-coloured beads on her shoelaces were a personal symbol of her identity, but fear of being targeted led her to remove them. This act of self-censorship sparked the idea for the project, aiming to remind individuals that they are loved and supported. The Rainbow Shoelace Project transcends the simple act of threading beads onto shoelaces; it's a metaphor for inclusivity and support. Abby Jane's message is clear: no one should feel alone or isolated because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.
Family: A Pillar of Support
Abby Jane's personal story of coming out as bisexual to her mother, Sophie, highlights the importance of a supportive family. She credits her mother and grandfather as instrumental in her advocacy work, providing a nurturing environment that allowed her to thrive and pursue her passion for helping others.
From a Local Noticeboard to Global Impact
The project's humble beginnings with six packets of beads on a Woolies noticeboard in Broken Hill have since reached international heights, including places like South Korea. With over 250,000 packs of rainbow beads distributed since March 2022, Abby Jane's initiative demonstrates how small actions can lead to significant change.The beads, given away for free, ensure accessibility for all, particularly young people without supportive parents or financial means. Funded by her single mother and reliant on donations, the project is a labor of love, with each pack of beads carefully assembled with the help of volunteers.
Overcoming Adversity: Abby Jane's Resilience
Abby Jane's move from Broken Hill to Port Macquarie was a result of the bullying and homophobia she faced. Her experiences at World Pride in Sydney and participation in Mardi Gras were not only opportunities for advocacy but also moments of personal growth and healing.
The Power of Community and Acceptance
The impact of the Rainbow Shoelace Project is evident in the stories shared by those it has touched. From a 50-year-old man coming out to his doctor, sparked by a conversation about the beads, to individuals feeling safe to express their identity, the project's reach is profound.
Abby Jane's Advice to Aspiring Change makers
For those looking to make a difference, Abby Jane's advice is invaluable: stay true to yourself, embrace your authenticity, and maintain your passion. Challenges will arise, but with heart and determination, amazing things can be accomplished.
A Beacon of Hope
Abby Jane's wisdom, bravery, and courage are a beacon of hope for those in need of support. Her work with the Rainbow Shoelace Project is a powerful reminder that even the smallest gestures can have a monumental impact on people's lives.
In closing, I want to express my deepest admiration for Abby Jane and her mother, Sophie. Their dedication to creating a more inclusive and accepting world is truly inspiring. As we continue to share stories like Abby Jane's, we contribute to a culture of empathy, understanding, and support for all.

44. CORINNE WEST

I'm excited to share with you the insights and experiences of an extraordinary guest, Corinne West, the head of diversity and inclusion at King and Wood Mallesons. It is a story that I believe will resonate with many of you.
The Genesis of Leadership: A Dance Teacher's Journey
Corinne's story begins with a touching recollection of her first experience of leadership. As a primary school student, she organised a fundraiser for bushfire victims, showcasing her innate ability to lead and empathise from a young age. This early act of kindness set the stage for a life dedicated to serving others.
Her background as a dance teacher further shaped her leadership style, instilling in her the importance of discipline, creativity, and the ability to guide others. Dance, as Corinne would attest, is more than an art—it's a medium through which life lessons are imparted.
Triumphs and Tribulations: IVF, Miscarriage, and Loss
Corinne's journey, however, has not been without its hardships. She speaks candidly about her personal struggles with IVF and miscarriage, a testament to her resilience. The loss of her younger brother added another layer of grief, yet through these experiences, Corinne's strength and capacity for leadership only grew.
Embracing Vulnerability: The Power of Personal Stories
Throughout our conversation, Corinne emphasises the importance of sharing personal stories. She believes that by doing so, we can show that adversity is a common thread in the tapestry of leadership. It's not the absence of hardship that defines us, but rather how we navigate through it.
A Historian's Heart: Storytelling and Service
Corinne's background as an oral and academic historian reveals her passion for storytelling and its power to challenge the written record. Her work with different communities and her involvement in a project on Australia's involvement in global peace operations demonstrate her commitment to giving back and creating positive change.
From Academia to the Army: A Leap of Faith
Transitioning from academia to a temporary position in the army, Corinne found herself supported in an unexpected environment. Despite fears of failure and the impermanent nature of work, she embraced the opportunity to apply her skills in research and storytelling to a new context, leading to personal and professional growth.
Leading Cultural Reform: Empathy and Empowerment
Corinne's role in leading the cultural reform framework for the army, in response to reviews on defense culture, showcases her ability to adapt her expertise to drive change. Her work with disadvantaged communities, such as documenting the history of Kew Cottages, underscores the importance of giving voice to marginalized groups.
The Fire Services: Confronting Resistance
Working in the fire services presented Corinne with new challenges, particularly in promoting diversity and inclusion. She faced resistance and barriers, especially concerning the treatment of women. Through open dialogue and sharing personal stories, Corinne worked to foster empathy and understanding within the organisation.
The Ongoing Battle for Inclusivity
Corinne's experiences highlight the complexities of driving cultural change in resistant environments. She emphasises the need for humility, respect, and consistent effort to create a positive and inclusive workplace. Her approach to cultural reform is a testament to her leadership and dedication to diversity and inclusion.
In conclusion, my conversation with Corinne West has been a profound reminder that leadership is not just about the positions we hold but the lives we touch and the stories we share. Her journey from a young fundraiser to a champion of diversity and inclusion is a powerful narrative of how our experiences shape us and how, in turn, we can shape the world around us.

43. MARK STONE AM

Leading Through Adversity: Insights from Mark Stone, CEO of Parks Victoria
Mark, the CEO of Parks Victoria, is not only recognised for his leadership but also for his significant role during the harrowing bushfire period in Victoria in 2009.
Navigating Crisis with Compassion and Collaboration
The 2009 bushfires in Victoria were a time of immense tragedy, and leading an organisation through such a crisis was no small feat. Mark recounted the challenges his team faced, from the heartbreaking loss of lives to the widespread impact on the community. He stressed the importance of collaboration with emergency services, staff, the community, and the government in the recovery process. It was a time that called for leaders to help people heal emotionally, physically, and environmentally.
Mark spoke of the resilience and dedication of his staff, who supported each other through debriefings after gruelling shifts. He also highlighted the significance of acknowledging their hard work and the sacrifices made by their families through a heartfelt video tribute.
The Roots of Resilience: A Personal Journey
Delving into his personal background, Mark shared anecdotes from his early life in a small town in the Goulburn Valley. His strong work ethic was evident from a young age, as he humorously recalled his days as a champion tomato picker at 14. These experiences, along with the influence of his family, shaped the values that would guide his leadership style.
Lessons in Leadership from the Football Field
Mark's journey in leadership was not confined to the boardroom; it extended to the football field. He drew parallels between his experiences as a player and coach and the world of business. Football taught him the importance of empowering individuals and fostering an inclusive environment. He shared a touching story of a young player who, despite not being able to kick a football well, found a place in the team as a goal umpire, contributing in his unique way.
Career Progression and Embracing Change
Mark's career trajectory is a testament to his adaptability and willingness to embrace new challenges. From climbing the ranks in the football industry to leading change in business organisations, he never shied away from proving his capabilities. He discussed the consolidation of regional manager roles and the resistance he faced, offering insights into leading through change.
Advocating for "Healthy Parks, Healthy People"
As the director of national parks, Mark championed the "healthy parks, healthy people" concept, which resonated not only in Victoria but also on an international scale. His efforts were recognised by the US park service and even caught the attention of Michelle Obama. This initiative underscored the importance of community well-being and the role of parks in public health.
Teamwork and the Power of Collaboration
Throughout our conversation, Mark emphasised the value of teamwork and the collective success achieved when everyone works towards a common goal. He drew on sports analogies to illustrate the importance of each team member's contribution and the need for a team-oriented approach.
A Life of Service and the Impact of Mentorship
Mark's work with young people in the football industry highlighted the significance of mentorship. He helped them overcome challenges and find meaningful roles, focusing not just on their physical abilities but also on their communication skills and personal development.
Recognition and Reflection
Mark underscored the importance of listening, learning, and working with a diverse range of people. He encouraged ambition and the willingness to adapt tactics when necessary.
The Takeaway
Mark's commercial and community-oriented examples throughout the interview were a testament to his wisdom. His commitment to helping others in various capacities is truly inspiring.

42. FELIX ELLIS MP

The Roots of Leadership: From Head Boy to Minister
Our conversation began with a look back at Felix's first brush with leadership as the head boy of his primary school in Broome, Kimberley. He candidly shared that he felt ill-prepared at the time and didn't represent his peers as well as he would have liked. This early experience taught him valuable lessons about preparation, focusing on people, and the essence of servant leadership.
The Reality of Trade
We discussed Felix's background as a plumber and gas fitter. The values of hard work, humility, and practical problem-solving were ingrained in him during his apprenticeship. These skills proved invaluable, enabling him to assist individuals from various backgrounds throughout his career as a tradesperson.
Navigating the Challenges of Tasmanian Politics
The conversation then turned to the demanding nature of the Tasmanian state government. Felix attributed his success in this environment to his upbringing, voracious reading habits, and admiration for political leaders who demonstrated courage under pressure. His political interests were sparked by his remote upbringing and the influence of his parents, especially his mother, a remote area nurse.
When discussing the skills he aspires to emulate, Felix listed several political leaders, noting their courage and conviction in serving the public. He also recognised the importance of humility and the pursuit of continuous learning in politics.
A Rapid Rise and the Weight of Responsibility
Felix's ascent in the Tasmanian parliament has been swift, with him now holding multiple significant roles, including being the leader of the house. He spoke of the diverse responsibilities he manages and the rapid progression of his political career.
The Finite Nature of Political Leadership
Felix and I delved into the impact of his senior government positions on his leadership approach, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic. He acknowledged the limited time frame of political leadership and the imperative to make a meaningful impact. Felix emphasised the need to consider the future and the challenges that lie ahead for the next generations, such as an aging population, climate change, and global instability.
The Role of Family in Shaping a Leader
Turning to his personal life, Felix spoke about his wife, Margo, and her role as his moral compass. Their home discussions range from professional matters to the everyday challenges of renovating their old house, illustrating the normalcy behind the public figure.
Empowering Others: The Hallmark of True Leadership
Felix shared his advice for aspiring leaders, stressing the importance of embracing diverse viewpoints, practicing humility, and empowering those around them. He suggested that careers in the military or policing could provide a solid foundation for future politicians, given the skills and life perspectives these roles offer.
Gratitude and Reflections
As our conversation drew to a close, I expressed my gratitude for Felix's openness and insights. His leadership philosophy and personal values offer a blueprint for effective governance and serve as an inspiration for current and future leaders alike. Felix's participation in the interview was not only an honour but also a reminder of the profound impact that thoughtful and courageous leadership can have on society.
In this podcast, we've journeyed through the experiences and insights of Minister Felix Ellis, a leader who embodies the courage and dedication required to navigate the complexities of government and the ever-changing landscape of public service. His story is a testament to the power of humility, hard work, and the relentless pursuit of improvement – principles that can guide us all, regardless of our chosen paths.